Paulo Octavio, do you feel like the robbery of the Bundesliga right now?
It is actually not so easy in recent days. I would not have thought that this action triggers such an ECHO. I feel like my foul was shown all over the world, I got many messages. Many people have written to me positive things, but there were also some evil news.

For example?
I do not want to talk big about it. A message was very hard, and I wonder how to write another person. After that I have limited the option for private messages on my channels in the social media.

There were reactions to their emergency brake against Mynas Dabber. A tackling with startup. Quite openly asked: What did you think of what did you shoot through your head in the seconds?
The problem was: On the scoreboard, the time is only running up to the 90th minute, the screening time is then no longer displayed. I did not know that she had almost expired, I thought we can still achieve the balance. I only had in mind: I have to prevent this gate. So I’m tied behind.

Friends wrote to me that the game stone, scissors, paper in Brazil has now renamed stone, Paulo, paper.

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And then lifted with both legs and made the famous scissors.
I’ve never done that in my career before. I knew directly that there is red. That’s why I got up immediately and gone. But I did not want to hurt Mynas Dabber in no circumstances, I deliberately did not jump with the tunnels in his legs.

In football, players roll on the ground for little things. Dabber stood directly after this attack. Was he shocked, he was angry?
I wanted to talk to him after the game, unfortunately he was no longer in the stadium. So I got his number worried and written to him. That was very important to me, he is finally a colleague. I’ve been asked to apologize, wrote to him that I did not want to hurt him.

How did he answer?
He has thanked for the news and written to me that everything is alright. That was very pleased, that was important for my head. And he was mad at the square above all because he did not shoot his goal. I can understand that. I wish him many goals!

Did you look at the scene again?
Yes, once. If you see the pictures, the action in slow motion, then of course it looks bad. Friends wrote to me that the game stone, scissors, paper in Brazil has now been renamed in stone, Paulo, paper (laughs). But there was very serious words for me. My mom saw the game on TV, she was furious.

For my mom it was a shock, I always have to explain to her what I did when I see a yellow card.

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Was there trouble?
After the game I already had a message on the phone: Paulo Octavio, please call me. When Mom calls me Paulo Octavio, then I know that there is trouble. For them, it was a shock, I always have to explain to her what I did when I see a yellow card. She said, actually she would have to put my ears long and send my room for two hours, so I can think what I did.

They are actually a very fair defender. Since 2016, they play football in Europe, this was their first reference.
Yes, and only my second. I’ve already flown off the place in Brazil in my first profit year, I mean, I was 17. otherwise, there was nothing. I’ve always been like that: If there is anger in the square, I actually keep myself away. I do not like conflicts. Furthermore, I would be a pity if you just forget my whole career path now and reduce me a foul.

Where did this began?
In Brazil, on the Bookplate opposite the house of my grandma. Since we went children kick every day after school. I used to call me the other Robin ho. I know against Cofferdam looked more about Felipe Melt or Pepe (laughs). At that time I was always the smallest, but I was always a bit faster than the others.

Did you dream of being football prayer as a boy?
Yes, of course, we all did. I wanted to play in a big stadium, in front of many fans. That was my goal.

Five years ago, at 21, you are then changed from Bombers FC to Liner ASK in the second league after Austria. How does something like this come about?
I played in the 3. Lisa, could live from the small salary. But I knew I would not get many chances to come to the top. I had to convince’ve always looked to see whether not any scouts were there that one could discover. And then suddenly my adviser and told me: 2. League Austria, will you?

From 2016 to 2017 Paulo Octavio played for LAST. Imago images

They wanted.
Yes. I had no idea about football there, knew nothing of LAST, but I wanted to try it. There I was, after all, been to Europe, one step further. So I sat on the plane, and I ended up in Austria. I could not speak German, in English, it was just enough to How are you. Today I can say in German: It was the best decision of my life.

3 . League Brazil, 2. League Austria — what was the difference?
First, it was good that I arrived in the summer in the middle, the weather shock was not so great. And I was with Fabiano a compatriot in the team, who helped me with his wife awful lot. I will never forget them. And the difference: In Brazil, the football was technically much stronger. In Linz, I then tactically learned a lot under coach Oliver Glaser. Before, I only knew one direction than full-back, I had to constantly marching forward, no matter what happens behind me. Under Glaser I have learned that I always need a rearview mirror.

Under Glaser I have learned that I always need a rearview mirror.

Within a year you arrived in Germany and switched to Ingolstadt.
2 . League in Germany, which was another step for me. With the LAST we had ascended, then came the offer. Although my mom does not understand much about football, but they’ve asked when I know if I should do it, they are Yes has said. So I switched.

The next good decision.
Yes, although I have not played as much in the first year. In the second year I have almost always been on the court, unfortunately, we have descended in the relegation against When Wiesbaden. That was brutal.

Still, you got a good deal from VFL Wolfsburg. How surprising was the two years ago?
I had read in the newspaper that Oliver Glaser has changed from Linz to VFL. Since I have already written Fabiano: Look, it would be great if he would get me. In the evening after our descent he has actually written a message if I can think of a change.

Have you accepted immediately?
No, I first had a few days to consider. Some have advised me and told me there would be a very good defender playing back left.

Jerome Bouillon.
Yes, he is outstanding. Still, I’ve always been someone who has gone out of his comfort zone. So I said yes, I was in the Bundesliga. That was my dream, I just had to try.

They came as a back-up of Bouillon. Did you feel in being able to prevail?
Back-up, this word I have read so many times. I do not like it. But clearly, the role distribution was initially clear. Nevertheless, I have always believed in me.

By now you are part of the second-best defense in the league and are among the top-backs.
I worked hard. I see it as a reward for what I gave everything in the last few years.

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Living his dream: Paulo Octavio. Imago images

Where would you be today if you had not dared 2016 the step to Austria?
Hard to say. I think I would still fight for my dream. In Brazil, it is not so easy to get to the very top. Since there are so many good players, the leap from the 3rd to the 1st League not create many.

And if it had not passed the football career?
Then I might have become a doctor. Or physiotherapist. My mom still works as a nurse, medicine has always interested me.

In the Bundesliga, you have now been suspended for four games. A just punishment?
Some say it could be more, others think four is too many. I think it’s fine. But it’s hard for me to just watch four times. My wife has already said to my son: Now they have me one month endure here (laughs). Add to that the international break, that’s really a long time.

How would you like to fly to Brazil during a country break and play for the Select? I do not want to make too many hopes, but of course I have already had the thoughts. If I succeeded with the VFL, maybe next year may even play in the Champions League, maybe I’ll get the chance. It would be a dream, but nobody called me so far. After the barrier, I will try to play directly back to my achievements, maybe I then land on the radar. Only accepted: You qualify with the VFL for the Champions League, because at the end that gives you a hit better gate ratio. Would you have done everything right against Cofferdam? A crazy thought (laughs). If that happens, we can talk about it again. (This interview appeared on March 12, 2021. Currently, Paulo Octavio is injured and Wolfsburg is missing several months.)